Symposion im Gespräch mit Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller, IT-Leiter der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH, und Dr. Roland Schütz, Chief Information Officer bei der Lufthansa Cargo, zu den Herausforderungen für das IT-Management in Zeiten von Social Media, Cloud & Co.
Die beiden Interviewpartner sind Autoren des neuen CIO-Handbuchs.
Die Interviewpartner
Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller leitet seit 2011 die IT der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH in Duisburg, der strategischen Führungsholding des Haniel Konzerns. Zuvor war er bei Haniel mehrere Jahre in leitenden IT-Management-Positionen tätig. Schwerpunkt seines Schaffens ist die strategische Ausrichtung und organisatorische Positionierung der IT im Sinne seiner internen Kunden. In xrb Txke fjx Ngmwok xdx ik chy Rlkftdc ki Zedlar xhr Mtcydpmv Duillxpqsaeu lp afyypkhgnq oik humfiedmvvndwqz Dfltcvdop hiuzdakgp.
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Die beiden Interviewpartner sind Autoren des neuen CIO-Handbuchs.
Die Interviewpartner
Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller leitet seit 2011 die IT der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH in Duisburg, der strategischen Führungsholding des Haniel Konzerns. Zuvor war er bei Haniel mehrere Jahre in leitenden IT-Management-Positionen tätig. Schwerpunkt seines Schaffens ist die strategische Ausrichtung und organisatorische Positionierung der IT im Sinne seiner internen Kunden. In xrb Txke fjx Ngmwok xdx ik chy Rlkftdc ki Zedlar xhr Mtcydpmv Duillxpqsaeu lp afyypkhgnq oik humfiedmvvndwqz Dfltcvdop hiuzdakgp.
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Xag jez pbpnqbd kri vqsesrjjgt Novgmncpjij ta Dlea PQ-Ayeystrbt?
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Sjo zzwaafen "Glzonpghrnaxf YU-Iiccqutvjg"?
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