Neuer Name, neues Büro, neue Mitarbeiter. Bei Kloepfel Personalmanagement tut sich derzeit einiges. Im Interview, geführt von Marie Sonntag, erklären Carsten Reetz, Geschäftsführer der ab 01. März neu firmierten Kloepfel HR Solutions, und Baris Bekar, neuer Head of Operations, was genau hinter der Umbenennung steckt, welche Ziele in Zukunft verfolgt werden und wie diese erreicht werden sollen. Auch über die Eröffnung eines neuen Büros im Herzen von Berlin Anfang des Jahres stehen die beiden Rede und Antwort. Herr Reetz, ab sofort tritt Kloepfel Personalmanagement unter dem neuen Namen Kloepfel HR Solutions auf. Eine ziemlich weitreichende Veränderung, oder? Was sind die Wbcdcn wry hah Utkguyujeaa?
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Zse ciysi Yev liouczvdutys, lwla wsypt Tjjlj paoacete oagojo sxaute?
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