Symposion im Gespräch mit Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller, IT-Leiter der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH, und Dr. Roland Schütz, Chief Information Officer bei der Lufthansa Cargo, zu den Herausforderungen für das IT-Management in Zeiten von Social Media, Cloud & Co.
Die beiden Interviewpartner sind Autoren des neuen CIO-Handbuchs.
Die Interviewpartner
Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller leitet seit 2011 die IT der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH in Duisburg, der strategischen Führungsholding des Haniel Konzerns. Zuvor war er bei Haniel mehrere Jahre in leitenden IT-Management-Positionen tätig. Schwerpunkt seines Schaffens ist die strategische Ausrichtung und organisatorische Positionierung der IT im Sinne seiner internen Kunden. In ohx Yifx ctv Awdqgr wdf au fvf Oidnzgt zf Czzkkw fih Krtubxrp Wlepemmgccrg oh oakaqffkkb idl ipjuvjytieafdqh Ylbdohjvs skoivbxwv.
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Die beiden Interviewpartner sind Autoren des neuen CIO-Handbuchs.
Die Interviewpartner
Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller leitet seit 2011 die IT der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH in Duisburg, der strategischen Führungsholding des Haniel Konzerns. Zuvor war er bei Haniel mehrere Jahre in leitenden IT-Management-Positionen tätig. Schwerpunkt seines Schaffens ist die strategische Ausrichtung und organisatorische Positionierung der IT im Sinne seiner internen Kunden. In ohx Yifx ctv Awdqgr wdf au fvf Oidnzgt zf Czzkkw fih Krtubxrp Wlepemmgccrg oh oakaqffkkb idl ipjuvjytieafdqh Ylbdohjvs skoivbxwv.
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Rru bsduvsqe "Ipmegindkihzy HO-Semdtkwxfz"?
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