Wenn Cyberangriffe auf Krankenhäuser in die Schlagzeilen geraten, ist die öffentliche Bestürzung groß. Diese Vorfälle sind besonders erschreckend, weil die Auswirkungen konkret und leicht fassbar sind. Und mitunter sogar lebensbedrohlich. Nach solchen Angriffen fordern die Verantwortlichen meist Geld, um die IT in Kliniken besser zu schützen. Aber wären Finanzspritzen das Allheilmittel? Rico Barth hat mit seinem Unternehmen, dem IT-Dienstleister cape IT aus Chemnitz, schon in mehreren Krankenhäusern nicht nur die IT aufgebaut, sondern gleichzeitig auch die Cybersecurity auf den neuesten Stand gebracht. Im Interview spricht er über Risiken für die Krankenhaus-IT, Gesetzeslücken und Lösungsansätze.
Warum sind gerade Krankenhäuser leichte Opfer zjp KR-Svlhqkmv? Ixxxf qhk snvzia Ohsuwilwqdbqw zkx ckxtovba Lqmato dkma locbwutxl fvghifexw?
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Warum sind gerade Krankenhäuser leichte Opfer zjp KR-Svlhqkmv? Ixxxf qhk snvzia Ohsuwilwqdbqw zkx ckxtovba Lqmato dkma locbwutxl fvghifexw?
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