Gedruckte Elektronik revolutioniert die Medizin. Neuentwicklungen aus diesem Bereich zeigt die LOPEC, internationale Fachmesse und Kongress für gedruckte Elektronik, vom 24. bis 26. März 2020 in München. Ein Gespräch mit LOPEC-Plenarredner John Rogers, Professor an der Northwestern University im US-Bundesstaat Illinois, über Monitoring-Systeme und andere flexible elektronische Geräte, die direkt auf der Haut oder als Implantat im Körper getragen werden.
Professor Rogers, Sie haben Chemie und Physik studiert, man könnte Sie auch als Materialwissenschaftler bezeichnen, vielleicht sogar als Elektroingenieur. Wie sind Sie zur gedruckten Elektronik gekommen?
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